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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm, Lotusphere anyone?]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Why I.T. should not be in control of your business by Vaughan Rivett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vaughan Rivett]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Joe,

This is my personal view.  Wasn&#039;t Lotus Notes not build as a team collaboration tool?  The NSF database allowed for easy replication of data and also provided for a robust and secure platform.  Is Lotus Notes sometimes being pushed to do something which may be heavily transactional?

From what I have seen, xPages provides the ability to overcome many of the limitations you have raised.  I had some developers build an xPages application which brought together data from NSF databases, Exchange, MySQL and also JD Edwards.  All of the data was presented to the user in a portal-like fashion.  The application was extremely responsive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe,</p>
<p>This is my personal view.  Wasn&#8217;t Lotus Notes not build as a team collaboration tool?  The NSF database allowed for easy replication of data and also provided for a robust and secure platform.  Is Lotus Notes sometimes being pushed to do something which may be heavily transactional?</p>
<p>From what I have seen, xPages provides the ability to overcome many of the limitations you have raised.  I had some developers build an xPages application which brought together data from NSF databases, Exchange, MySQL and also JD Edwards.  All of the data was presented to the user in a portal-like fashion.  The application was extremely responsive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I.T. should not be in control of your business by joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Even more I (and many other business partners and developers) are concerned about the NSF database format. Everyone knows that NSF is great, but it&#039;s old and has it&#039;s problems (32K anyone? Full text indexing latency? Scalability with many documents?).

And just as I expected, IBM simply does nothing about it. Nothing. Not. a. single.word. about. improving. NSF.
Or did I miss something?

That&#039;s a dissapointment. NSF is falling behind other No-SQL solutions, and while XPages might attract new developers, the will be scared away again when they learn about the ancient problems of NSF. What a pity. &quot;

full link -- http://blog.youatnotes.de/web/youatnotes/blog-jb.nsf/dx/lotusphere-2012-my-thoughts.htm?opendocument]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even more I (and many other business partners and developers) are concerned about the NSF database format. Everyone knows that NSF is great, but it&#8217;s old and has it&#8217;s problems (32K anyone? Full text indexing latency? Scalability with many documents?).</p>
<p>And just as I expected, IBM simply does nothing about it. Nothing. Not. a. single.word. about. improving. NSF.<br />
Or did I miss something?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a dissapointment. NSF is falling behind other No-SQL solutions, and while XPages might attract new developers, the will be scared away again when they learn about the ancient problems of NSF. What a pity. &#8221;</p>
<p>full link &#8212; <a href="http://blog.youatnotes.de/web/youatnotes/blog-jb.nsf/dx/lotusphere-2012-my-thoughts.htm?opendocument" rel="nofollow">http://blog.youatnotes.de/web/youatnotes/blog-jb.nsf/dx/lotusphere-2012-my-thoughts.htm?opendocument</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I.T. should not be in control of your business by Vaughan Rivett</title>
		<link>http://vaughanrivett.co.nz/2012/02/02/why-i-t-should-not-be-in-control-of-your-business/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vaughan Rivett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stephan,
I like that last sentence. 


&lt;blockquote&gt;IT department needs to alter the point of view: they are no longer the guardians of the grail, but the enablers for business.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree, business should not be in charge of infrastructure as this is not something that most people in management understand a lot about.  However, they need to be able to steer IT in the direction of business function, process and culture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephan,<br />
I like that last sentence. </p>
<blockquote><p>IT department needs to alter the point of view: they are no longer the guardians of the grail, but the enablers for business.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree, business should not be in charge of infrastructure as this is not something that most people in management understand a lot about.  However, they need to be able to steer IT in the direction of business function, process and culture.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I.T. should not be in control of your business by Vaughan Rivett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vaughan Rivett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Joe,
Thanks for coming back and continuing the conversation.  Based on your comments, it would appear that your experience and views are based around people rather than the platform.  Lotus Notes applications do scale and I struggle to think of many applications which are able to compete in that space.  Like I said, I have worked for some large organisations and have seen this first hand.

However, you raise some really good points when it comes to &quot;notes guys&quot;.  I have worked with teams of notes developers, not only that, but also managed them.  While my background is in Administration, I understand what good development processes look like.  I once managed a team of developers who would go straight to coding without a plan, let alone a test plan.  Their first round of testing would be &lt;em&gt;User Acceptance Testing&lt;/em&gt;, which always ended up with users being completely frustrated.  They didn&#039;t even have any project management which would have ensured that good practices were being followed.  I need not say much more, but you get the idea.

On the other hand I know of many great developers who continually churn out code and Lotus Notes applications which are both stable and able to scale without any issue.  

Going back to the main point of this blog post.  It is important that business directs IT based on business outcomes, however, this doesn&#039;t exclude IT professionals from providing input from their domain knowledge.  IT people are hired into the business do deliver on something that others cannot, but this needs to compliment the direction, strategy and vision of the business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe,<br />
Thanks for coming back and continuing the conversation.  Based on your comments, it would appear that your experience and views are based around people rather than the platform.  Lotus Notes applications do scale and I struggle to think of many applications which are able to compete in that space.  Like I said, I have worked for some large organisations and have seen this first hand.</p>
<p>However, you raise some really good points when it comes to &#8220;notes guys&#8221;.  I have worked with teams of notes developers, not only that, but also managed them.  While my background is in Administration, I understand what good development processes look like.  I once managed a team of developers who would go straight to coding without a plan, let alone a test plan.  Their first round of testing would be <em>User Acceptance Testing</em>, which always ended up with users being completely frustrated.  They didn&#8217;t even have any project management which would have ensured that good practices were being followed.  I need not say much more, but you get the idea.</p>
<p>On the other hand I know of many great developers who continually churn out code and Lotus Notes applications which are both stable and able to scale without any issue.  </p>
<p>Going back to the main point of this blog post.  It is important that business directs IT based on business outcomes, however, this doesn&#8217;t exclude IT professionals from providing input from their domain knowledge.  IT people are hired into the business do deliver on something that others cannot, but this needs to compliment the direction, strategy and vision of the business.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I.T. should not be in control of your business by joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lotus notes mail box may be good, but the apps do not scale..most notes guys i met do not understand version control at all.. dont know why they never use version control..they tell me that lotus notes does not support.. and i see a lot of them have access to production server..

at first i thought these lotus notes developers are junk, but i came to know that is how things are with notes environment usually..then later one person told me that many notes people r closely working with biz people .. mostly the operations, hr, quality people etc.. not the core domain people.. i came to know that lotus notes is rarely used for LOB apps..just for some quick and dirty apps.

there can be exceptions. may be u r bright developer person working on some complex apps.. i don&#039;t know.. but i think people like u r rare in notes world..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lotus notes mail box may be good, but the apps do not scale..most notes guys i met do not understand version control at all.. dont know why they never use version control..they tell me that lotus notes does not support.. and i see a lot of them have access to production server..</p>
<p>at first i thought these lotus notes developers are junk, but i came to know that is how things are with notes environment usually..then later one person told me that many notes people r closely working with biz people .. mostly the operations, hr, quality people etc.. not the core domain people.. i came to know that lotus notes is rarely used for LOB apps..just for some quick and dirty apps.</p>
<p>there can be exceptions. may be u r bright developer person working on some complex apps.. i don&#8217;t know.. but i think people like u r rare in notes world..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I.T. should not be in control of your business by Vaughan Rivett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vaughan Rivett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Joe
Thanks for your comment.  I would strongly disagree, in the most part, with what you have written.  I have worked both in IT and business for much of my working life.  IT are only part of an enablement team for the greater company.  Compliance, Legal issues and security violations should all be based around directives of the company leadership.  One would expect that IT would have significant input around some of the issues which may arise out of these, but certainly not control of the business or its processes.

I find your comment about Lotus Notes to be interesting.  I have worked on global Lotus Notes systems for some of the worlds largest enterprises who are leaders in their specific markets/industries.  Not only that, but I work for an organisation with over 440,000 employees who all use Lotus Notes.  You might also want to check out their current share price in comparison to one of their major competitors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe<br />
Thanks for your comment.  I would strongly disagree, in the most part, with what you have written.  I have worked both in IT and business for much of my working life.  IT are only part of an enablement team for the greater company.  Compliance, Legal issues and security violations should all be based around directives of the company leadership.  One would expect that IT would have significant input around some of the issues which may arise out of these, but certainly not control of the business or its processes.</p>
<p>I find your comment about Lotus Notes to be interesting.  I have worked on global Lotus Notes systems for some of the worlds largest enterprises who are leaders in their specific markets/industries.  Not only that, but I work for an organisation with over 440,000 employees who all use Lotus Notes.  You might also want to check out their current share price in comparison to one of their major competitors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I.T. should not be in control of your business by joe@gmail.com</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe@gmail.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[biz has to be controlled by it folks. biz will do anything, and will result in compliance and legal issues..coz of security violations..

u hv to think of enterprise apps to appreciate it. u r a notes guy after all... u won&#039;t understand much abt enterprise it..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biz has to be controlled by it folks. biz will do anything, and will result in compliance and legal issues..coz of security violations..</p>
<p>u hv to think of enterprise apps to appreciate it. u r a notes guy after all&#8230; u won&#8217;t understand much abt enterprise it..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I.T. should not be in control of your business by Stephan H. Wissel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephan H. Wissel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 02:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It cuts both ways. Business shouldn&#039;t be in charge of IT infrastructure. The problem is when confusion sets in: IT guys put restrictions on business behavior (e.g. you can&#039;t have more than 3 month email) or business users demand applications that don&#039;t fit into the IT landscape.
Of course the IT department needs to alter the point of view: they are no longer the guardians of the grail, but the enablers for business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It cuts both ways. Business shouldn&#8217;t be in charge of IT infrastructure. The problem is when confusion sets in: IT guys put restrictions on business behavior (e.g. you can&#8217;t have more than 3 month email) or business users demand applications that don&#8217;t fit into the IT landscape.<br />
Of course the IT department needs to alter the point of view: they are no longer the guardians of the grail, but the enablers for business.</p>
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